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Riot Girl
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Posted - 2012.10.15 18:50:00 -
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Moving into low/null isn't about how much you can gain, but about how much you can afford to lose.
If a high-sec player is flying a ship worth 50m and has worked hard for 3 days to acquire another 50m for their wallet, they aren't likely to risk losing their ship in low/null.
If a player is flying a ship worth 50m and has 500m in their wallet, they are far more likely to risk losing their ship for the greater reward. Giving players good rewards in high-sec actually encourages them to move into riskier parts of space. It also helps if they have other players encouraging them to move into null-sec. If null sec players want to complain about high sec players and carebears, perhaps they could do something about it by welcoming them into null sec instead of expecting them to fly solo into a hellish gank-fest that many new players perceive null-suc to be. |

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Posted - 2012.10.15 19:01:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Why won't they go to low-sec again? What makes you think they don't? I can't say for sure, but I expect most new players would probably be a bit curious about exploring low-sec. For most new players, there's nothing there for them though. |

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Posted - 2012.10.15 19:09:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:A 50M ship price tag is no excuse whatsoever to avoid risk. That's true. I think a lot of new players aren't accustomed to losing ships. They have no real desire to go out and get themselves blown up. I think it's a pride thing because other games feed them the idea they are some great hero. They come to EvE with big ideas about taking over the universe and perhaps they don't want to tarnish their reputation by getting killed or something. I think new players might feel some embarrassment and humiliation in being blown up by another player. |

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Posted - 2012.10.16 10:43:00 -
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Mike Whiite wrote:What might help as well is to do something about some of the 24/7 Gatecamps
Nothing needs to be done about them. To stop those gatecamps would just be dumbing down the game and that will stir up a violent reaction in the community. There are shuttles, cloaks and jumpclones. All that is needed is for new players to learn to use them.
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Riot Girl
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Posted - 2012.10.16 11:35:00 -
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Opertone wrote:Eve is so unforgiving that 2vs1 one is the situation where 1 has to run real fast, or loose. If you show up on local, you are already found. Best you can do is cloak up and wait till your enemy is tired. You can not actually kick their ass, in fact, you bring a pvp gang and your enemy runs.
That's not even true. The other week I was doing some Faction Warfare with two other guys. We had a tackle frig, a Thrasher and a Rupture and we jumped a Retribution on his safe spot. He kicked the crap out of all three of us lol.
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Riot Girl
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Posted - 2012.10.16 13:44:00 -
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Mike Whiite wrote:would you be so kind as not to remove that line out of it context.
Yeah, sorry. So what exactly was the correct context of your comment? All I got was 'do something about gatecamps to make it less intimidating for newbies'.
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Riot Girl
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:03:00 -
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I'm just going to assume you got confused and thought you were posting on the WoW forum. |

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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:14:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:eve is all about skill and extreme smart thinking to kill stuff at gates. It is when you're the victim. Have you ever tried fitting a ship for the sole purpose of falling prey to a gatecamp? With a little planning and careful manipulation of aggression mechanics, you can create some surprising results. You might even have fun. Maybe you should try it. It might change your perspective on things. |

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Posted - 2012.10.17 12:06:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Question is, what's the point doing it? The point is to learn to enjoy PvP. To take a ship specifically designed to take on a gate camp. Play games with them, use the gate guns, use aggression to split their group up. You might even destroy a couple of ships, you might not. It doesn't matter, the point is that you are learning to enjoy EvE.
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Posted - 2012.10.17 16:30:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:some people think that Eve is only PVP (read: playing with other people how other people want you to play)  do you really want to waste your time doing it?
There is absolutely nothing forcing people to play how other people tell them to play. You can do whatever you want, whenever you want. |
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